Transcript of the interview with Sen. Miriam Defensor Santiago

On the continuation of the ZTE-NBN hearing
This is already a hypothetical case because the President has already ordered the cancellation of the ZTE contract… so wala na tayong pag-aawayan pa, kung hindi sino ang lumabag sa ating batas, dahil ang mga taong iyon—dahil nga napakalaking eskandalo ito—ay dapat idemanda sa Ombudsman. Pero ang Ombudsman ang may kapangyarihan na gumawa ng preliminary investigation, ibig sabihin imbestigahan ngayon kung may suspects tayo. Kaya kung iimbestigahin pa rin ng Senado, magiging doble na kasi hindi naman pwedeng ang Senado and mag-imbestiga para sa Ombudsman. If we conduct the investigation here in the Senate at this point, we will simply be anticipating and duplicating the function of the Ombudsman. In fact, we may even be accused of usurping the powers of the Ombudsman. Anyway, whatever happens at this point, the ultimate result will simply be an endorsement to the Ombudsman. So I believe that the Senate should now turn its attention to other more urgent matters such as the national budget, which is already upcoming.

If Sec. Neri cites executive privilege
In my view, this makes Mr. Neri suspect. We could just include him among those whose names we think the Ombudsman should investigate in a preliminary investigation. But there is no more point belaboring the facts because the Senate is not a fact-finding body. We are merely inquiring so that we will know what law to pass. We already know from all the hearings that have been conducted more or less what will be the shape of the law that is needed so that we can avoid this kind of a scandal in the future.

It will quite also set a precedent because kung ganun rin lang na pababayaan siya ng komite ng Senado ay pwede naman pala na i-subpoena ang mga testigo at sasabihin na lang nila na ayaw nila at may executive privilege sila. This is to set a deterrent to other people who might cover up the truth simply by citing executive privilege because as the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court said, the principle of executive privilege remains alive and kicking. It is just a question of making sure that the committees of Congress will not abuse this power.